Implantation bleeding or period?

Kathrine2
Since 6/2018Kathrine2
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October 23, 2018 at 11:01 amHi All,

I have had very little brown blood since yesterday and only two times very watered down red blood when I wipe. I have undergone 1 month of IVF so far, last month and this month we have taken off trying to conceive naturally. I usually get my period at the end of the month, very last day or first or second day of the beginning of the month. I have no period cramps which I would usually get up to a few days before my period and during.

If I do have my period I need to start my next IVF cycle within 4 days of the first day of my period. I don’t know what to do and am unsure of what’s going on. It’s too early to test for pregnancy and my OBGYN is out of the office until November. HELP!

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CassieLovesCha…
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October 23, 2018 at 3:12 pmHi there KathrineZee - Oh man! It's tough to say for certain what that bleeding could be. I know you said you were taking a break from TTC naturally, did you track likely ovulation at all? It would be helpful to have an idea of when likely ovulation may have taken place to help narrow down what this bleeding could be.

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iradiored
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October 24, 2018 at 8:05 pmHey Kathrine! Just to clarify... you are trying to conceive naturally this cycle? I would say go by how your cycles normally are. If your cycles typically start heavier than that then it is possible it could be implantation bleeding. Any idea of when you ovulated this cycle? I would think if you are supposed to start your IVF cycle 4 days post period, maybe by 4 days from your spotting you would be testing positive? I’m sure if you call your DR there is someone there as back up while your DR is away.

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Kathrine2
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October 25, 2018 at 5:28 pmHi Ira- yes, that is correct. I ended up going to my IVF doctor to get a beta pregnancy test and unfortunately it came back negative. Also, not too long before I had my appointment my full period began. It just didn’t start out as it typically does so I thought possible pregnancy.

Now I am beginning my second cycle of IVF. Starting with de-programming my system then will begin FSH injections to produce more eggs. Hoping for eggs, multiple embryos and a successful transfer!

Thanks for the advice!

CassieLovesCha…
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October 26, 2018 at 9:02 amI'm so sorry to hear that KathrineZee! Way to be positive about this next roung of IVF though! I'm keeping my fingers for you! :)

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Kathrine2
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October 26, 2018 at 10:32 amThanks Cassie! Hopefully positive baby news at the end of this cycle.

CassieLovesCha…
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October 26, 2018 at 11:35 amI'm hoping the same thing for you! Feel free to reach out to me if any questions pop up along the way :)

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iradiored
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October 26, 2018 at 2:41 pmKathrine-

Bummer on that... why does the period ALWAYS show up after we make plans. My miscarriage started the morning of my scheduled D/C, after waiting for it to happen naturally for close to 5 weeks!!!

Good luck on your next cycle!

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Kathrine2
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October 27, 2018 at 11:56 amIra- so sorry to hear about your miscarriage. Hope you are doing ok now.

We’ve been trying to conceive for two years and have now restored to IVF. Hopefully we will get pregnant this cycle. Taking all of the injections and oral medications definitely is not easy especially when it causes severe headaches and hormonal changes. But, when we do become pregnant it will all be worth it.

iradiored
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October 29, 2018 at 9:30 pmDefinitely Kathrine... rooting for you!

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Kathrine2
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October 30, 2018 at 5:19 pmThank you Ira!! Will keep you posted. I go for monitoring tomorrow, ultrasound and blood work. My guess is they will have me start fsh injections. Wishing you the best of luck conceiving your 2nd child!!

Kathrine2
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October 31, 2018 at 10:07 amSo, I have one 30mm cyst from the over stimulation last cycle. Going to do one more week of de-programming. I am pretty upset that I have to push off my fsh injections another week but, it’s what’s best to give my ivf cycle the best chance of success.

CassieLovesCha…
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October 31, 2018 at 11:45 amIt sounds like putting that off will only increase your odds though! Which has to be an encouraging thought. I'm excited to hear how this goes for you!

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Kathrine2
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October 31, 2018 at 1:23 pmThank you Cassie! I am hoping the cyst goes away so we can start the second ivf cycle. I was reading online that some girls are prescribed birth control for one month to rid of cysts from ivf stimulation and some have to skip a month of ivf treatments. I hope I don’t fall into either of those categories. Will see how my monitoring goes on Tuesday and what the doctor says.

CassieLovesCha…
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November 5, 2018 at 2:57 pmYou're welcome! Sending positive thoughts your way :)

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Kathrine2
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November 6, 2018 at 11:59 amThanks Cassie! So bad news, my cyst only went down to 25mm. Stopping all medication and waiting for my next cycle to begin. We are traveling overseas in mid December so if my cycle doesn’t begin on December 1st I will most likely have to begin again in January. Doctor says it’s best because if we start FSH the cyst will only become larger, we will get less eggs, and less chance of success in becoming pregnant. This will be for the best. A setback but hopefully the wait will give us a successful second cycle!

CassieLovesCha…
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November 7, 2018 at 9:57 amYou're so welcome! That does sound like bit of setback, but you have such a positive outlook on it which has to only be helping! I'm keeping my fingers crossed that you see that cycle start next month. Feel free to keep me updated and safe travels if I don't hear from you before you head overseas.

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sarahivym
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November 30, 2018 at 11:07 pmHi Kathrine, Thanks for sharing your story so far. I’m about to start IVF early January and so interested in hearing about other women’s experiences as I get closer. :) I’m so filled with a mix of hope, excitement, and dread. Mostly the first two but after trying for so long I can’t help but feel a ton of anxiety. Hope all is going well for you this time around!

Kathrine2
Since 6/2018Kathrine2
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December 1, 2018 at 7:51 amHi Sara,

You’re welcome! Hope you can find it useful :) IVF is exciting, I was so hopeful in getting pregnant the first cycle but, unfortunately my embryo didn’t make it after they inserted it :( an embryo is the closet we ever got to being pregnant so far. I haven’t been able to start my 2nd ivf cycle yet due to the cyst from over stimulation. Hoping I can start my 2nd cycle in January so maybe we can go through it together! The medications definitely aren’t easy, between the routine of having to take them and the terrible headaches that I had when my body was adjusting to the increased fsh levels and the headaches when I stopped the fsh injections due to my body having to adjust again. The progesterone needles are large but I didn’t find those to be too painful. The egg retrieval was painful and so was embryo insertion especially since I wasn’t under anesthesia. Stay strong and know the end goal will hopefully be a sweet little miracle! Be sure to eat healthy, get plenty of sleep, stay hydrated, and take your prenatal vitamin!! Wishing you all the best in your very first Ivf journey!! Keep me posted! I will continue to update everyone on my journey. All the best to you!

Happy Holidays, Kathrine

sarahivym
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December 1, 2018 at 11:14 amKathrine, So sorry you’ve had to wait so long to try again. I hope you have lots to keep you busy to make the time fly by. This month always feels like the shortest of the year with all the holiday and family stuff going on. Hang in there!

I should be starting my cycle early in Jan - new year’s eve or day will probably be my Day 1. We are really lucky, because there happens to be a clinical trial going on to test a stimulation drug preparation, and so we get the whole cycle at no cost. Otherwise we might not be able to do this. Downside is that it’s a blind study so there’s a 1/10 chance I could receive a placebo and the cycle fails... AND I’m not allowed to know how my follicles are developing until we get to egg retrieval or it’s canceled. However, if the first stimulation does fail for whatever reason we get a second cycle on whatever drugs/protocol our doctor chooses. After weighing the pros and cons carefully we decided we had to go forward. It’s too great of an opportunity.

Would love to keep in touch throughout. I don’t know anyone close to me that’s gone through this, so thank you so much for all the info on what to expect. Adding a cold eye mask to my amazon cart for the headaches. :) Sarah

Kathrine2
Since 6/2018Kathrine2
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December 26, 2018 at 5:49 amHi Sarah- it’s ok and thank you. It will be best to wait so my next cycle will have a higher chance of success. I finally got my period a few days ago (cycle was change due to last ivf cycle and meds). Now, I have high hopes of beginning my 2nd ivf cycle at the end of January.

That’s amazing that you are able to be part of a clinical trial and that they will give you two chances. I hope that you do not receive the placebo pills and that it will be a great success!! Stay positive and do all that the doctors say. Wishing you all the best! Keep me posted.

Kathrine

sarahivym
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December 26, 2018 at 10:30 amNice! Maybe we will both have a really good new year! I had all my screenings so the only thing left is injection training I guess. Expecting my period around the 4th so we’re super excited. Won’t know at all how it’s going until after egg retrieval so it’s going to be so nerve wracking. Sarah

Kathrine2
Since 6/2018Kathrine2
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December 30, 2018 at 12:07 amHope we do!!! I can imagine how nerve racking it will be, hang in there and stay positive! Incorporating all the meds towards the end is hard but worth it for the eggs! Wishing you the best.

Kathrine

sarahivym
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January 8, 2019 at 12:54 pmHi Kathrine! So... had my suppression check this morning and out of the blue I have a cyst so they want to delay and try again next month. They said it’s common and nothing to worry about but I heard the doctor say it measures 15 and when I googled (I know, I know haha) that actually is pretty large. They said no treatment is necessary but I think I’m going to message the nurse to find out if I can do anything to better my chances of a normal u/s next time. We are obviously disappointed but trying to remind ourselves how lucky we are to be so close and to be patient. (!!) I remember that you said you had this problem after all the stimulation drugs, is that right? Has it been resolved? Is everything still on track for the end of the month? :)

Sarah

Kathrine2
Since 6/2018Kathrine2
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January 23, 2019 at 5:21 amHi Sarah- so sorry to hear your first cycle has been pushed due to a cyst. Thankfully they are doing what is right and waiting for you to be cyst free so when you do start your first cycle you’ll have more of a chance of success! I hope your cyst will be gone when they check you again soon. Fingers crossed!

Yes, I also had a cyst but due to the stimulation from the first cycle. The nurse also told me that cysts are common even in those who aren’t doing IVF. Apparently cysts can come about during a normal period which is why the periods can also be so painful.

I finally just got my period today so hoping to start my second cycle! Hoping to go for monitoring tomorrow and get the all clear to start my meds! Will keep you posted.

Maybe we will go through the cycle together but you may start about one week later?

sarahivym
Since 9/2015sarahivym
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January 23, 2019 at 6:53 amKathrine- Yay! So it begins! Sending the best all-clear vibes for your ultrasound. Let me know how it goes. I just ovulated a few days ago so I’m guessing my check should be on/around the 4th. Just getting over a bad chest cold and thinking maybe it was for the best I didn’t suffer that at the same time as ivf (and not being allowed all the cough meds). Best of luck tomorrow!

Kathrine2
Since 6/2018Kathrine2
Since 6/2018

January 24, 2019 at 11:55 amHi Sarah- thank you! No cysts so I am good to start! We are going with a different approach this cycle to increase our chances of getting more eggs so possibly more embryos if we luck out. It’s called deprogramming. So from today until next Tuesday I have to do one ganirelix injection per day and take one pill of proverra. Then on Wednesday I go for another ultrasound and hopefully if all looks good then we will start with the FSH injections. So, this cycle should be about 5 weeks long compared to the usual 4. Hoping we get pregnant because ivf definitely isn’t easy.

Sorry to hear about your chest cold, hope you’re feeling better but, like you said it’s probably best it happened when you weren’t undergoing ivf! Hope you get to start your first cycle soon! Keep me posted. I will update after every appointment.

Hopefully we both get pregnant this cycle!!

sarahivym
Since 9/2015sarahivym
Since 9/2015

January 24, 2019 at 2:45 pmYes!! I’m so glad for you, and have a really good feeling that this will work out in the best way. I will be waiting to hear how your appt goes Tuesday! Will help keep me busy, hearing about what’s going on with your cycle, while I’m impatiently waiting for my period :)

Is this your first or do you have kids? I have a 9 year old. It couldn’t have been easier conceiving him, and now we have been actively trying 6 years to give him a sibling. Since our issue is my husband’s very low sperm count, the doctor can only assume our first son was just pure luck bc they can’t find a reason for his low count. :/

Hope you don’t feel too many side effects from the medications and that part of it goes smoothly. Keep yourself distracted so it goes by as quickly as possible and practice self care! Great excuse for stretchy pants every day and takeout.

Sarah

nikkib801
Since 8/2018nikkib801
Since 8/2018

January 26, 2019 at 4:34 amHi Kathrine and Sarah, I was hoping to join you both in your journeys.

Kathrine, thank you for your tips on the other thread, will keep them all in mind when I start my cycle. That’s great news that you’re starting your second cycle, best of luck and definitely keep us posted. I’ll keep everything crossed for you!

Sarah, that sounds interesting about the clinical trial and amazing that it’s at no cost! I also hope that everything works out perfectly for you.

We had our first meeting with the fertility clinic during the week to get a better understanding of IVF and the costs involved. We’re excited to start the process but our next step is to pick a specialist and make an appointment for more blood tests, possibly ultrasounds and hubby to have another analysis done. After that’s all done we will then be able to get our IVF plan and I’m hoping we can start our first cycle in March. I’m planning to do the egg collection awake, I’ve had some people say it’s extreamly painful and others say it’s bearable and feels like cramps, so that’s got me a little worried but I’ll try it for the sake of saving some money. How did you find the collection Kathrine?

sarahivym
Since 9/2015sarahivym
Since 9/2015

January 28, 2019 at 11:58 pmNikki, wishing you all the luck and that everything goes well for you, too!

And Kathrine, hope you’ve been doing ok with the ganirelix and Provera. Sending good vibes for Wednesday...

Kathrine2
Since 6/2018Kathrine2
Since 6/2018

January 29, 2019 at 6:37 amHi Sarah- thank you! I go for my appointment tomorrow afternoon, today is my last day on the ganirelix injection and my last proverb pill. I was sleeping good the last few nights (I thought maybe due to the medication) but, last night I couldn’t sleep at all. I was extremely hot, possibly the medication? Not looking forward to starting the FSH injection possibly tomorrow as thats when the horrible headaches start and you definitely need some Tylenol. Will let you know how the appointment goes tomorrow!

So glad to hear you have one child and that you had no issues conceiving the first time!! But, so sorry to hear you’ve been trying for so long the second time around :( hope you can get pregnant soon!! Have the doctors said anything about morphology issues? Your husband has sperm so that’s definitely a good thing!! You have everything you need, sperm and eggs! I once went to an IUI doctor because we were first considering that and he told my husband and I that there are cases that are a lot worse and that he once had a patient with a male partner who had no sperm (now that’s a big problem)!

Unfortunately, we don’t have any children yet :( we’ve been trying for over two years, I stopped keeping track now. My husband and I are both perfectly healthy and live a very healthy lifestyle along with no smoking or drinking alcohol. My husband has sperm but we found out that they have morphology issues and some are slow. He felt his testosterone drop right before we started trying to conceive and upon his blood work it was found that it was low a few months ago. After, going to an endocrinologist she also ran bloodwork but at that time his testosterone was within the normal but low range. So that may be the thing which is causing his sperm to look funny.

Hopefully with IVF they will be able to select the fast moving sperm that look fine and hopefully we will get more embryos this time around. Last IVF cycle we only had 5 eggs and ended up with just one embryo at the end. We were so lucky to have that because 5 is a very low number. Hoping to get a lot more eggs this cycle since my doctor is supposed to increase my FSH dosage.

Can’t wait to hear about the start of your journey soon!!

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