spotting starting 8dpo

penname
Since 9/2013penname
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October 15, 2013 at 6:54 pmHi there,

I just wondering if anyone offer me some insight. I miscarried last June at 13 weeks (apparently the baby had died at 9 weeks). Since then I have been temping and charting and I notice that I start to spot brown on day 8 of luteal phase until I usually get to day 14 of LP and actually get my period. It happened last month and it is starting this month too. Has anyone else had this problem? My progesterone levels were checked and they looked normal and so far my temping chart appears to be normal. Has anyone been able to conceive even though you started spotting 5 - 7 days before your actual period? If, so hwhat help remedy the situation. Any help or info would be helpful. I am finding this spotting to be very frustrating and worrisome.

tysonholly
Since 2/2013tysonholly
Since 2/2013

October 16, 2013 at 1:08 pmSorry about your miscarriage. I've been there and this board has helped alot in my recovery from it. Not sure what the exact issue is but I can offer one helpful piece of info. It may or may not help you but b6 in doses of 50-100 mg daily can increase your luteal phase and may stop the spotting. If that's not the prob I would check w your doc. Maybe others on here can offer more insight. Good luck!

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penname
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October 16, 2013 at 5:30 pmHi, Tysonholly,

I'm sorry you suffered a miscarriage too. It is a very emotional cruel event to have to go through. Thanks for your help. Regarding the B6 do you take it daily? My luteal phase according to my last 2 charts have been 12 - 13 days which is fine, but the evil brown spotting starts 8dpo. I should add that I have endometriosis and I was on mexdroxyprogesterone (to bring on regular periods) when I found out I was pregnant. When I was on the progesterone, I never got the premenstrual spotting. The doctors insist that the progesterone did not play a part in getting pregnant, but I can't help but think it did. I just get worried that this premenstrual spotting is my lining shedding to fast for implantation to ever occur....

tysonholly
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October 16, 2013 at 6:11 pmSo if the spotting only happens when you're off the progesterone, can you just keep taking the progesterone? It seems to help you.

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penname
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November 1, 2013 at 7:33 pmI actually saw the doctor today and she prescribed me prometrium (progesterone) to help with the premenstrual spotting. So lets hope it works!!

tysonholly
Since 2/2013tysonholly
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November 2, 2013 at 10:35 amGood luck! Hopefully this will be your answer!

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penname
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November 2, 2013 at 10:54 amYes lets hope!!

Littlepumpkin
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November 3, 2013 at 11:58 amJust wanted to offer my story...sounds like you are on your way to solving the problem but I know other insights can help:)

I experienced mid cycle and spotting 3days before af. I started taking a bcomplex which has equal amounts of b6 and b12. You can get them as a b50 or b100...they say to start small and work your way up.

I think I got pg our first try and baby was flushed out. After three months of bcomplex we got our BFP. I gradually saw pos changes each month. My whole story is in a thread I started in overcoming infertility naturally....you can pop over and read the whole thing if you want, but it worked for me!! And the month I got my BFP...NO spotting before af...gave me a little clue;-)

~Jena~
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penname
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November 3, 2013 at 12:58 pmthanks, I will try that. Just to clarify it is vitamin B (complex) that you are refering to? I am going to start to take the progesterone either tonight or tomorrow (instructions are to take 2 days after ovulation which according to my chart I have ovulated. I'm just trying to debate on which day I actually did ovulate). Thanks for you help and offering your insights. This year has been a tough one!

Littlepumpkin
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November 3, 2013 at 1:07 pmYes it will say b50 or b100 complex on it. There is just a general complex but it doesn't have enough of each to make a difference...depending on the one you go with it will have 50mg or 100mg of each.

Looking at your chart I'm inclined to say o occurred cd16 with the temp rise cd17 and you had your most fertile cm then. It's possible o occurred with the second temp rise cd19...but your cm doesn't line up as well.

Hang in there:/ so sorry for your loss:(

~Jena~
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tysonholly
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November 3, 2013 at 9:23 pmIt's the same as taking plain b6 in 50 to 100 mg doses like we'd discussed but the complex has other b vitamins in it. If you have enough of those, just do the plain b6.

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penname
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November 4, 2013 at 4:26 pmThanks everyone for your advice. I bought some vitamin b complex from the drugstore yesterday so lets see if this puts an end the premenstrual spotting!

Littlepumpkin
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November 4, 2013 at 5:21 pmTysonholly- you know better than I, but in my reserach I read that it's important to take equal amount of b6 and b12 as b6 can be harmful by itself? I also read that you shouldn't take over 200mg as it can become toxic?

~Jena~
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tysonholly
Since 2/2013tysonholly
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November 4, 2013 at 6:42 pmThat can be the case but most women aren't b12 deficient. If you were then it could be a problem. I limit b6 at 100 mg once a day as you'll get some in your diet too and levels much above that have shown toxicity. I'm sure some people are comfortable w more though. You'll mostly just pee out any excess.

I try to get my vitamins from natural sources as much as possible bc there's some thought as to the fact that "artificial" or supplemental vitamins just don't absorb well since they're bound to work differently then vitamins from foods. I started that train of thought when I realized you will never see toxicity (ok super rarely) from naturally ingested vitamins from foods but frequently see toxicity to supplemental vitamins, especially the fat soluble ones. Therefore they must act differently in the body. Just an interesting bit of thought :)

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Littlepumpkin
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November 4, 2013 at 8:02 pmVery interesting...thanks for your insight!! It was amazing for my body as it brought o up 14 days!!!! 14!!!! Def regulated my cycles. I'm def going to take it after baby too....does make your pee neon but seems by body needs it:)

~Jena~
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tysonholly
Since 2/2013tysonholly
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November 5, 2013 at 1:13 pmHa! Definitely the neon pee. I have connective tissue issues (genetic) and headaches so I take riboflavin (b2) and omg everything is soooo yellow! Lol. I def think there's a place for supplements and hope my previous comment didn't come off badly. I put my sil on b6 and she got pregnant the next cycle after 18 months of trying. I won't say that did it, but it couldn't hurt! Her lp was 9-10 days and got longer too.

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Littlepumpkin
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November 5, 2013 at 4:56 pmNo not at all.... Good info!!...it also lengthened my lp:) I truly feel that's what helped dh and I get pg:)

~Jena~
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